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ORH Fan-- Great Comments

 I can't imagine that the loads for Delta have gotten any better with the flight being later. The connection options are limited at LaGuardia at that time. My understanding is that the LaGuardia flight out of ORH is being moved even later so unless you want to spend the night in Queens, what's the point???

As for American Airlines, to get anywhere in Florida other than Miami I would have to make 2 stops (Tampa and West Palm Beach for example), and to Fort Myers, 3 stops (ORH to JFK, JFK to Columbus, Columbus to Philadelphia, then Philadelphia to Fort Myers). 

I'm not a big JetBlue person as I mostly fly Delta because I have preferred status with them. I can't say I'm surprised the flight loads are the way they are. The flight options stink. 

There's no way these airlines are here because they want to be with the possible exception of JetBlue but even then I have my doubts. It's no coincidence that these 3 airlines are the 3 largest that serve Logan Airport and are all constantly fighting for market share at Logan. If these airlines wanted to be here they'd be giving us better flight options. 

As for Avelo, I don't see them coming here anytime soon with the flight loads we have. My guess is their next New England expansion will be to Portsmouth or Manchester. As for me, and until something changes here and we get some better flight options, I'll be giving my business to TF Green in Rhode Island.




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Anonymous said…
These loads are terrible. I just looked up loads from December 2019 to compare to March 2022... they were much better and more direct flight options. Also surprised at how well ORH-PHL was doing!

- FLL 80% (Jetblue)
- MCO 82% (Jetblue)
- JFK 66% (Jetblue)
- PHL 85% (American)
- DTW 65% (Delta)

Do we know why DTW and PHL were changed to JFK and LGA?

Massport and ORH management, we do not need 4 daily flights to NYC...

Source: http://aviationdb.net/aviationdb/F4SDetailQuery#SUBMIT
Anonymous said…
The Detroit loads were not as good as people thought and most months were under 50%. Philadelphia changed so the aircraft could and could benefit from the Cat III landing system (the original aircraft from Philly could not). Philly or DC for American needs to be changed from JFK, and for Delta, Detroit, Minneapolis, Atlanta, or switch that to JFK would be beneficial
David Z. said…
Meanwhile, Breeze Airways starts nonstop service from Bradley Airport to Las Vegas with low fare promotion.

https://www.courant.com/business/hc-biz-bradley-breeze-las-vegas-20220907-gqbafbikgjbvrcqfkbjzxhxema-story.html?utm_source=newsletter&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=News%20%403&utm_content=1201662574384&smtrctid=
ORH Fan said…
I doubt you'll see Breeze at ORH anytime soon. When Breeze initially announced they would start service they said they were going to target underutilized airports or smaller regional airports to have service out of. I don't see Bradley and TF Green as being "underutilized". If Breeze comes into Massachusetts, it will be to Logan, I'd almost put money on that.

As far as our less than mediocre flight options at ORH, I think we've beaten that dead horse into oblivion. It's clear with our lousy flight options that Massport is leveraging the desire to expand at Logan by Delta, AA, and JetBlue to get service at ORH. If those 3 weren't jockeying for market share and expansion at Logan, the only thing you'd see flying out of ORH would be pigeons and seagulls. But at least we can brag about that fancy $100 million plus landing system that was supposed to put ORH back on the map. There is ZERO reason that this airport can't be successful. ZERO. We are the 2nd largest city in New England and have a rather large college student population as well. We don't need all these flights to NY City. For Delta to be successful here that LaGuardia flight either needs to be much earlier in the day or better yet switched to Atlanta. Atlanta would open up the entire Delta route map. American should switch their ORH flight to Charlotte and ditch JFK. Charlotte is one of American's hubs to the Southeastern US and Caribbean and that would be hugely successful here as well. In my original comment that was highlighted by the blog I noted that I would have to make 3 connections to get to Fort Myers on American out of ORH. Most other Florida destinations would require 2 connections with the exception of Miami. On Delta, the flight to LaGuardia is so late that either I can't get to where I want to go without overnighting at LaGuardia or I'd arrive close to midnight. It just doesn't work for me and I'm sure it doesn't work for a lot of other people. And then there are all those people that still have no idea that ORH even has flights. The whole social media advertising thing is missing a large portion of the population. I don't think I know a single person who has a Twitter account. They need to do a full-scale advertising blitz. They completely wasted a great marketing opportunity with the free parking up at ORH. There should have been a billboard on both sides of 290 all summer long. They also need better signage. There's a boring looking green highway sign on 290. They need to come up with some kind of logo and post that on the sign. Something that will get people's attention. They need to be creative in the way they advertise. When people are stuck in rush hour traffic crawling along on 290 they'll literally be staring at ORH billboards and signage. Better signage around the city and at the airport itself would help too. I drove by the airport today and I don't think that sign at the end of Airport Drive at 122 has been changed since the 80's. I get it that service expansion takes time, there are issues with available gate slots at other airports, etc., but in the 2 1/2 years since I moved back to Worcester I have seen very little effort to make this airport successful. No one wants ORH to be successful more than me. I live less than 3 miles from the airport. It's just not worth the effort for me to utilize it at this time. I have to book 2 flights to Florida during the first half of next year and possibly another in early November. I also have a trip planned to Arizona next April/May and while I'd love the convenience of using ORH, unless something changes with the schedule there, I'll be going out of Providence on Delta.
Unknown said…
As for a logo I’d suggest a stylized plane shape taking off with a vapor trail containing the the letters WOO-SH. Fly Worcester